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The following comes from a Kotaku interview with Shigeru Miyamoto.

Kotaku: One of my senses is that the games [you have at E3] are fun but they feel safe, like this is not a Nintendo taking risks this year. Is this a safe year for you guys?

Shigeru Miyamoto: So I don't look at this as us playing it safe, because, whenever we make a game, we're striving to create new experiences for people. Certainly from outside the company and even internally we have a lot of staff members who are talking about, we should create new [intellectual property, as in characters or series]. To me the question really comes down to: What is new IP and, by definition, what is a new game? And I think there's a lack of understanding about the difference between the two.

And so, from my perspective, a lot of people say, 'Oh, you should make new characters and those would be fun games,' but creating a new character doesn't necessarily mean the game is going to be fun. You really need to be focusing on creating a new gameplay experience that's fun and unique.

And so even with a game like Pikmin 3 where our focus is on perfecting the Pikmin game design, we've really finally felt like we've created a new gameplay style even within the Pikmin franchise.

Kotaku: Sure. To me, it seems that each of the big franchises that you have is a formula. Super Mario side-scrolling games are a formula. Pikmin is a formula. Luigi's Mansion is a formula. Animal Crossing is a formula. Every time you release a new one, you're perfecting that formula or tweaking that formula. For me, something like Luigi's Mansion or Pikmin feels fresh because I haven't seen it from you—Nintendo—in 10 years, whereas a Mario Kart or a Donkey Kong Country game that Retro is working on, I feel like I just played that formula last year or the year before. And I sense that from our readers as well, that they feel not so much that they're looking for new characters but that some of these formulas...we feel like we're getting them again and again very rapidly. And that's where the sense that maybe you're playing it safe comes from. Do you see that?

Miyamoto: So I guess when you explain it that way I could see how maybe some people might see it as a somewhat conservative approach, but we're always focused on creating those new gameplay elements. When it comes to those new franchises, we can look at something like Nintendogs. And, because in Nintendogs the character was a dog, people didn't really view that as new IP from Nintendo, and it was. And with Wii Fit, the same thing, people didn't really look at that as new IP.

I think, from my perspective, we're always trying to do new things, so even if we're doing it within the same formula it's still a new experience. And, apart from that, I'm also working on a lot of other projects where I'm experimenting with new things. And some of them may be things like the Louvre museum project that I've worked on. I think perhaps there's a misunderstanding about the difference between of new IP and new experiences.

Kotaku: Right. Don't get me wrong. Dillon's Rolling Western was a new character. Pushmo was a new character. I pay attention. I know you guys are actually creating new characters. It's more that—the Donkey Kong game stands out to me—I feel like I just played that. And so, Mario Kart, I feel like I just played that, and I know those series well enough that I can see one difference here and one difference there. I've only played the games for five minutes, so I don't know all the differences, but that's where it feels like to me like, this year, this isn't the Nintendo that was taking huge risks by introducing the Nintendo Wii or the DS or Wii Fit as a piece of software, but instead it feels like, 'Oh, I know all these franchises already, and so I'm seeing small iteration in franchises that I just a year or so ago.'

Miyamoto: Yeah, I guess I understand there are some who wish we brought something new or some different ideas to E3, but at the same time, I also feel that people don't tend to recognize what we have done that is new. Because even something like Nintendo Land that I thought was very fresh and offered unique ways to play games, people don't recognize as being a new IP or taking a risk simply, because we didn't build a new story around it or introduce a new character around it. Whereas if we had taken that gameplay and had done it that way, people would have recognized it as a new IP. So I guess to a certain degree that is a little bit of the frustration.

The following comes from Reggie Fils-Aime.

Kotaku: What do you think? Are you playing it safe?

Fils-Aime: I don't think we're playing it safe. I hate to say it...

Kotaku: [laughing] You don't...you don't hate to say whatever you're about to say...

Fils-Aime: You know that I like you a lot. I think that's actually a superficial analysis. And here's why I say that. When you look at the depth that's in Super Mario 3D World, the use of the different characters, the fact that different characters have different capabilities, the fact that it's a multiplayer game in a 3D space that EAD Tokyo does so well... that experience is a phenomenal experience. Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze, I think it's superficial to look at that game and say, well, it's just Donkey Kong Country. No it's not. New levels, new enemies, new ways to player underwater, I mean there's a lot more richness in that game. I could literally go through point by point.

Kotaku: You would agree these are existing franchises that, if you know in advance what Mario Kart is like, you sort of know a lot of what Mario Kart 8 will be. It's that plus a new thing or a couple of new things or something like that, as opposed to when a Wii Fit comes out and it feels like it's radically out of left field and it feels like something different. So it's that in aggregation that it felt like familiar, familiar, familiar, familiar...

Fils-Aime: I think then what you're getting at is we are launching games within highly successful franchises. Mario Kart is a highly successful franchise. A franchise that on average I think the number is greater than five million units per SKU [version]. Super Mario does on average something like three million units per SKU. So these are big powerful franchises. And that is true that versus, Wii Sports or Wii Fit that were at the time brand new franchises that have also sold exceptionally well. All I can tell you is that, first, we've got some new franchises that we're about to launch. The Wonderful 101, I think, can be magic in a bottle, and we're continuing to work on other new franchises.

Konohamaru escribió:

Os copio un trozo de una entrevista a Reggie y Miyamoto por parte de Kotaku(agarraos que vienen curvas xd). Básicamente les preguntan sobre la sensación de que nintendo está sacando juegos que son mas de lo mismo, y tanto Miyamoto y reggie intentan hacer entender al entrevistador que Nintendo sacan más nuevas propiedades intelectuales de lo que pueda parecer:




Miyamoto and Reggie - We're not playing it safe, new IP talk, sales data | GoNintendo - What are YOU waiting for?

blue_mad_panda escribió:

Más razón que un santo en las dos cosas que dice.

La primera, es más o menos lo mismo que vengo diciendo desde hace ya meses. Nintendo plantea mecánicas diferentes con los mismos personajes, mientras las otras nos hacen jugar siempre a lo mismo, pero con diferentes personajes. Veo muchísimo más valioso lo que hace Nintendo, para el usuario, y para el videojuego en general.

Y segundo, Miyamoto apunta con bastante acierto a que ellos sí que están haciendo algunas cosas nuevas, pero la gente no parece darse cuenta. Y sobre todo la prensa, cuando corea al unísono ese mismo dogma. Pullblox, Harmo Knight, Steel Diver, el propio Nintendo Land que él menciona... todas ellas son nuevas IP.

Da la sensación de que lo que la gente y la prensa quiere es que Nintendo haga lo mismo que las demás. Que si no saca juegos de guerra, zombies, mafiosos, o pandemias mundiales, entonces no son "nuevas IP". Da igual que propongan ideas nuevas con sus personajes de siempre, o que incluso planteen nuevas ideas con nuevos personajes; hagan lo que hagan, todo estará mal, será insuficiente, si no hacen exactamente lo mismo que hacen los demás. Da la sensación de que lo que la gente quiere es que Nintendo deje de ser Nintendo, y eso es absurdo de todo punto.

agente_smithx escribió:

Pues nada. según parece Micro$soft ha anunciado que ha hecho un chiquito y da marcha atrás jarl!!!!!

Quita el veto a la segunda de un plumazo, por lo que la cosa queda como en la actual 360. Además la obligación de internet cada 24 horas queda reducida a una única vez solo la primera vez que se inicia la maquina. De ahí en adelante se puede tener siempre offline pudiendo jugar. Eso si, el disco siempre debe estar metido para jugar
Y para rematar, region free, por lo que WiiU quedaría como la consola más restrictiva de la nueva generación, de momento.